[Moo] Fwd: Re: Newcomer Night 5/17

[kathrynsnead at adelphia.net]

According to Iustinos, who is horribly ill on the couch next to me, his list did not include Dun Carraig, as we border them through water, so it depends on how you feel like counting bordering groups.

He also indicates that Abhainn Iarthair is officially "incipient" in the Kingdom of Atlantia; however, Atlantia does not recognize them as an official group until they have reached full status.  There is a form for application to become an incipient group, as well as a set of requirements that must be met in order to become incipient, (he was the one who went through the process for Sudentorre, back when he was seneschal of that group.)

Ilse (for Iustinos)

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Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:01:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dave Montuori <damont at wolfstar.com>
To: Mark Valente <stierbacher at yahoo.com>
Cc: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach <moo at stierbach.org>
Subject: Re: [Moo] Newcomer Night 5/17

My apologies -- newcomer night is Wednesday, May *17th*. That's still 
tomorrow.

Scripsit Marcolo:
> 1: What is a non-coronet independent group?  Is this a shire or a 
> college?

Could be either. By "non-coronet" I think you mean a branch that does not 
have ruling nobility.

All Shires are independent groups who do not report to any other branch 
smaller than principality.

Colleges *can* be independent groups, or they can be subsidiary branches.

Provinces are also non-coronet independent groups: they're equivalent to 
baronies in status but have no ruling nobility. There are no Provinces in 
Atlantia; the East Kingdom has one (Malagentia, up in Maine).
 
> Are Cantons excluded because of their affiliation with a Barony?

Yes -- they're subsidiary branches.

> 2: What is Baronial Precedence?

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here... clarification please?

> 3: According to the dictionary "Incipient" means "Beginning to exist or 
> appear".  However when is a local group accorded the status incipient in 
> Atlantia?  Is there a specific form or proceedure that has to be 
> completed before being recognized as incipient?  I have been told that 
> it is not accurate to refer to Ahainn Iarthair as incipient. However I 
> know they have started the process enough to have had their name 
> changed.

That's really a question for the seneschalate -- the answer I learned to 
that question appears to have changed over time. (Which is the major 
reason I'm CC-ing the list...)

> 4: According to Iustinos there are 5 Atlantian groups and 1 group in 
> Aethelmarc (Shire of Sylvan Glen) that share a border with Stierbach.  
> Yet he does not mention what these 5 Atlantian groups are. From what I 
> have been able to discipher from the information he provided and the 
> internet those 5 Atlantian groups are; Ponte Alton, Highland Foorde, 
> Roxbury Mill, Caer Mear and Isenfir.  Is this correct?

There are actually SEVEN bordering groups, 6 of which are in Atlantia.
Starting from due north of Manassas and working clockwise:
Highland Fnord^H^H^H^H^H Foorde
Roxbury Mill
Ponte Alto
Dun Carraig
Caer Mear
Isenfir
a lot of Crown Lands in AEthelmearc
Sylvan Glen (AEthelmearc)

Evan

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