[Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach

[Smith CTR Jeffrey C]

Hi there,

No, that is not what a heraldic title is, and I should have explained it earlier.

Heralds in the SCA -- all kingdoms -- reflect the medieval practice of having names for their offices, so (for example) the Atlantian Principal Herald is Triton Principal Herald and (again, merely as an example) Stierbach might have a Steer Pursuivant.   This is not a new position requiring a new officer, merely using a period practice and SCA tradition to rename one that exists currently.

Barcsi János


-----Original Message-----
From: moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org [mailto:moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org] On Behalf Of Marcolo DelMare
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:53
To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
Subject: Re: [Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach

>From what I understand this is a title for a position that is between Persuvant and Herald (capital H). This title is for Baronys not shires, Cantons etc and it only exists in Atlantia. The rest of the SCA has 3 ranks of Herald plus the society level King of Armes. Is this really a necessary title? Other Atlantian Baronys have the title but how many of them actually use it? Just because we can, is not a reason in my opinion. 
 
I vote against creating a new title. 
 
However perhaps someone would like to volunteer to be Minister of Minors or one of the deputies for our officer positions like MoAS and Chronicler. Or, perhaps folks would like to help create largesse for their Excellencies. 
 
Marcolo
MoAS


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Aimee Kratts <troenwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:


	Ok. Someone's gotta say it.
	 
	Singing Bull.
	 
	- Aimee
	 
	> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:42:34 -0500
	> From: jeffrey.c.smith.ctr at usmc.mil
	> To: moo at lists.stierbach.org
	> Subject: Re: [Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach 

	> 
	> I like the Sea-Cow/Sirenia idea but let's get more ideas flowing. I'll be glad to take them to the next business meeting so we can make it happen as heralds.
	> 
	> Barcsi Janos
	> 
	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: Sharon Henderson [mailto:revsharonhenderson at gmail.com] 
	> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:15
	> To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
	> Cc: Smith CTR Jeffrey C; Stierbach
	> Subject: Re: Heralds Title for Stierbach
	> 
	> I second what Evan said, having been HIS second and the second Baronial herald of Stierbach...
	> 
	> I think it should be worked on. I have a suggestion, only slightly silly: Sirenia Herald. Sirenia is the Order for a group of sea mammals (including manatees and "sea cows"... I think you can see where I'm going with this... *grin*) that are among the critters that don't ever leave the water, like dolphins and whales. So it's ocean-themed for Atlantia and cow-themed, sort of if you squint, for Stierbach... and doggone it, the critters are cute. :) There's even a filk song called All Hail the Manatee that "Sirenia" would scan to. The possibilities are almost endless, especially given it's... us. :)
	> 
	> So that's my suggestion... but in any case, count me in as voting heavily in favour of creating, voting on, or whatever, a title for the Baronial Herald's office in Stierbach.
	> 
	> Meli,
	> Second Herald of Stierbach,
	> Surprisingly Still Alive (tm)
	> 
	> 
	> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Evan scripsit:
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	> Scripsit Barcsi Janos:
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	> 
	> Doing research for a personal project, I found the list of heralds' titles for Atlantia. Unfortunately, Stierbach's is not listed. Does our herald's office have a title? If not, should we work on one? If yes, what is it?
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	> There is no title associated with a Titled Pursuivant for Stierbach, as far as I know.
	> 
	> Evan, first baronial herald of Stierbach
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