[Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach

[Smith CTR Jeffrey C]

Wonderful!  I'm smarter now, and we can proceed again.

Thanks all, for educating me -- and anyone else who read along.

Janos 

-----Original Message-----
From: Beverly Robinson-Curry [mailto:brcurry at bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 13:47
To: Smith CTR Jeffrey C; 'General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach'
Cc: 'Dave Montuori'
Subject: RE: [Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach

That's correct.  However, (1) the baronage and populace can always recommend to Triton that the promotion be given, if they think the herald's service has been really spiff (and unless the herald is brand-spanking new, Triton would probably acquiesce); and (2) if Stierbach had a really great herald and Triton wanted to reward them for that work, unless a title is registered for Stierbach, then that avenue is not available.  So, better to have one in the reserves.

BTW, the title is registered to Atlantia, for use with regard to Stierbach.


Rhi

Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill
Triton Principal Herald
House Corvus, Atlantia


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Smith CTR Jeffrey C [mailto:jeffrey.c.smith.ctr at usmc.mil]
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:40 PM
> To: Beverly Robinson-Curry; General Mailing List for the Barony of 
> Stierbach
> Cc: dmontuor at wolfstar.com
> Subject: RE: [Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Follow on question then:  does this mean we can register it but the 
> herald can't use it without permission?
> 
> Janos
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beverly Robinson-Curry [mailto:brcurry at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 13:38
> To: Smith CTR Jeffrey C; 'General Mailing List for the Barony of 
> Stierbach'
> Cc: dmontuor at wolfstar.com
> Subject: RE: [Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach
> 
> Evan is correct.  In Atlantia, the titles reserved for our various 
> baronial heralds are used as an extra "atta boy" for exceptional 
> service as a baronial herald.  It gives them something to 'aspire' to.
> 
> A listing of the current titles registered can be found at 
> http://herald.atlantia.sca.org/resources/Heraldic_Titles_Atlantia.pdf
> and an explanation of ranks/titles as used in Atlantia can be found
> here:
> http://herald.atlantia.sca.org/policies/Welcome_Letter.pdf
> 
> 
> I think it's a good thing to be thinking of registering a title for 
> Stierbach!  ;-)
> 
> 
> Rhiannon
> 
> Mistress Rhiannon ui Neill
> Triton Principal Herald
> House Corvus, Atlantia
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Smith CTR Jeffrey C [mailto:jeffrey.c.smith.ctr at usmc.mil]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:23 PM
> > To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
> > Cc: herald at atlantia.sca.org
> > Subject: RE: [Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach
> >
> > Thanks, I will do so.  That is different that other kingdoms that
> I've
> > been a herald in.  However, since other baronies have registered
> names
> > for their heralds' offices, I think we are safe to continue coming 
> > up with names while I check.
> >
> > Janos
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org [mailto:moo- 
> > bounces at lists.stierbach.org] On Behalf Of Dave Montuori
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 13:21
> > To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
> > Cc: herald at atlantia.sca.org
> > Subject: Re: [Moo] Heralds Title for Stierbach
> >
> > Scripsit Janos:
> >
> > > No, that is not what a heraldic title is, and I should have 
> > > explained it earlier. Heralds in the SCA -- all kingdoms -- 
> > > reflect the
> > medieval
> > > practice of having names for their offices, so (for example) the 
> > > Atlantian Principal Herald is Triton Principal Herald and (again,
> > merely
> > > as an example) Stierbach might have a Steer Pursuivant.   This is
> not
> > a
> > > new position requiring a new officer, merely using a period
> practice
> > > and SCA tradition to rename one that exists currently.
> >
> > Janos, please check with Triton before you go about making sweeping 
> > statements like this.
> >
> > Atlantia is, perhaps, peculiar among SCA kingdoms these days, in 
> > that the rank of Titled Pursuivant still exists. The titles are 
> > registered to the kingdom and are given out at Triton's discretion.
> >
> > For all branches in Atlantia, the perfectly period practice of using 
> > the place's name as the heraldic title is available. I was 
> > "Stierbach Pursuivant" for several years, and actually used that in 
> > correspondence on occasion during my tenure.
> >
> > I've no strong opinion on whether we should work on a title, or what 
> > it should be if we do.
> >
> > -Evan
> > currently Sackbut Herald, formerly Kraken, formerly Golden Dolphin 
> > before that, formerly Kraken before *that*, and also formerly 
> > Stierbach overlapping parts of the last two and also preceding both 
> > (long story)...
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