[Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10

Laurie Clarkston garadh56 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 8 11:03:34 PDT 2013 

Thanks Miriel..!  I never knew that this list even existed on the Kingdom
OP list.  I looked all over the Baronial website for info a while back when
I was trying to write up an award recommendation and could not find any
reference..!

A link on the Baronial website linking this to the Kingdom would have been
nice information to have.

Cairistiona


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Miriel de Nedham
<miriel.denedham at gmail.com>wrote:

> A list of the Baronial awards that the Kingdom is aware of can be found
> here <http://op.atlantia.sca.org/barony_awards.php?barony_id=33>.  There
> are listings from this year (Defending the Gate), though the baronial court
> report from Birthday has not yet been entered.
>
> Miriel
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Laurie Clarkston <garadh56 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>  When the Baronial OP link went away, so did the list of Baronial Awards
>> for various activities.  The OP has been outdated by several years, but you
>> could at least find a definition of each of the Baronial awards.
>>
>> So, if you want to recommend someone for an award, there is no listing to
>> show what awards Stierbach has.
>>
>> Cairistiona
>>
>>
>>  On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Miriel de Nedham <
>> miriel.denedham at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I never said it was on the Stierbach website.  I don't know about how it
>>> was set up before I started playing and paying attention to these things,
>>> but at one point there was a link on the baronial website to the baronial
>>> OP, which was hosted on a personal website.  That website became
>>> unavailable or inaccessible or somesuch (I don't know the details) a
>>> few years ago and so the webminister removed the link at some point, since
>>> there wasn't much use in keeping a broken link.  Since then the example
>>> text and the badge images have been unavailable online.  Again, that's as
>>> far as I know --- someone else may have started hosting the images, but I
>>> haven't come across them.
>>>
>>> For the most part, the Atlantian OP has covered the information that
>>> used to be on the Stierbach OP, with the exception of the
>>> Stierbach-specific badge images and blazoning and the award text examples,
>>> and has mostly done a good job of keeping things up to date.  Given that,
>>> and as far as I know, Stierbach hasn't needed to recreate what used to be
>>> on that personal website because the most important information is being
>>> maintained by the Kingdom.
>>>
>>> Miriel
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Blaine <
>>> hourumiyamoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why was it taken off the baronial website to begin with if we had
>>>> information on it?
>>>>  On Jul 8, 2013 8:09 AM, "Amie Sparrow" <troenwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Miriel,
>>>>>
>>>>> As someone who used to do a fair number of baronial scrolls early in
>>>>> my SCA participation, I think your project would be very useful. I applaud
>>>>> you for taking it on. There's no reason we can't have our own litte book.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a lot easier to get to Baronial scroll information when it was
>>>>> on the Stierbach website. Now you have to dig for it on the Atlantia site.
>>>>> If someone is a newbie, it would be discouraging.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will check my old scroll information to see if I have alternate
>>>>> wording for Baronial scrolls.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amie Sparrow
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:52:26 -0400
>>>>> From: miriel.denedham at gmail.com
>>>>> To: moo at lists.stierbach.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10
>>>>>
>>>>> The reasons this project seemed like a good idea when I proposed it:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The award badge images only seem to be available through a scribal
>>>>> version of word of mouth and even the blazonings are buried in the O and A.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. I have exactly one award text verbage for each award, most of which
>>>>> have notations indicating they were approved by Mika and Ursula.  These
>>>>> used to be available on Enequy's website that held the Baronial OP.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. I'm hosting a scriptorium that wants to help with court dockets,
>>>>> scroll backlogs, and several other projects, but the bulk of the
>>>>> participants are just starting out or for some other reason are
>>>>> uncomfortable with entirely improvising award text, much less doing that
>>>>> for every single scroll.
>>>>>
>>>>> One easy-to-acquire document, containing all that information and
>>>>> tailored specifically to our barony, in a familiar format and in a central
>>>>> location seemed like an ideal solution.  I saw a need, so I tried to fill
>>>>> it.  I apologize that my desire to help has apparently caused some offense
>>>>> or confusion.  I would still like to see the project through, even if it
>>>>> will never be well received by the barony at large.
>>>>>
>>>>> Miriel de Nedham
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like that there is not set text so that awards can be more
>>>>> personalize, less cookie cutter. That way everyone's scrolls can be
>>>>> tailored to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like you said previously, variety keeps court more interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Baroness Esperanza
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > It was my understanding that there was not set award text for an of
>>>>> the Stierbach awards. I like it this way.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I guess scribes could use the canned text like kingdom level scrolls
>>>>> but I would prefer that they don't have to. Just like with Kingdom level
>>>>> awards, the canned texted doesn't have to be used.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Baroness Esperanza
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Jeanne Zabel <jzabel at va.metrocast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Miriel and I have copies of the baronial award
>>>>> >> texts.  But there is only one set of wording for each award.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The kingdom handbook has several text variations as well as the
>>>>> graphics for each award.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Miriel would like to create a similar handbook for Stierbach
>>>>> scribes to use for baronial awards and is looking for input to create a
>>>>> variety of texts for each award.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Having variety keeps court more interesting since the herald would
>>>>> not be reading the same wording over and over.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> In service,
>>>>> >> Christina de Nedham
>>>>> >>
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