[Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10

Mon Jul 8 12:19:40 PDT 2013

Thank you Richard.  This will be very helpful.  When I was looking for this
info, I did go the Kingdom website with the link listed of the Baronial
website, but it was to the main Kingdom listing.

As of an hour ago, I never knew the Baronial info was also listed on the
Kingdom website.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Timothy Mitchell <rwymarc at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've made a note to add this to the website tonight. If there are other
> suggestions for useful links please send them to webminister at stierbach.org
> 
> Richard
> —
> Richard Wymarc
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Laurie Clarkston <garadh56 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I know this now, but this info would have been helpful several months ago
>> when I was looking for info on an award.  I could not find any info on the
>> Baronial Website on Baronial Awards.  If a link had been placed on the
>> Baronial Website, then this conversation would not be taking place.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Rhonwen verch Tuder <
>> rhonwen at kandsbennett.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  All awards ever given out by the current and past Baronage are found
>>> on the kingdom OP site.  You can search by B&B term or award given.  There
>>> is a description of what the award is for as well.
>>>
>>> In addition, if you think someone should have an award look at their OP
>>> on the kingdom website.  All awards given to that person will be listed
>>> there no matter if it was baronial, Atlantian, or another kingdom.
>>>
>>> Rhonwen
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:46 PM, "Laurie Clarkston" <garadh56 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   When the Baronial OP link went away, so did the list of Baronial
>>> Awards for various activities.  The OP has been outdated by several years,
>>> but you could at least find a definition of each of the Baronial awards.
>>>
>>> So, if you want to recommend someone for an award, there is no listing
>>> to show what awards Stierbach has.
>>>
>>> Cairistiona
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Miriel de Nedham <
>>> miriel.denedham at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never said it was on the Stierbach website.  I don't know about
>>>> how it was set up before I started playing and paying attention to these
>>>> things, but at one point there was a link on the baronial website to the
>>>> baronial OP, which was hosted on a personal website.  That website became
>>>> unavailable or inaccessible or somesuch (I don't know the details) a
>>>> few years ago and so the webminister removed the link at some point, since
>>>> there wasn't much use in keeping a broken link.  Since then the example
>>>> text and the badge images have been unavailable online.  Again, that's as
>>>> far as I know --- someone else may have started hosting the images, but I
>>>> haven't come across them.
>>>>
>>>> For the most part, the Atlantian OP has covered the information that
>>>> used to be on the Stierbach OP, with the exception of the
>>>> Stierbach-specific badge images and blazoning and the award text examples,
>>>> and has mostly done a good job of keeping things up to date.  Given that,
>>>> and as far as I know, Stierbach hasn't needed to recreate what used to be
>>>> on that personal website because the most important information is being
>>>> maintained by the Kingdom.
>>>>
>>>> Miriel
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Blaine <
>>>> hourumiyamoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why was it taken off the baronial website to begin with if we had
>>>>> information on it?
>>>>>  On Jul 8, 2013 8:09 AM, "Amie Sparrow" <troenwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Miriel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As someone who used to do a fair number of baronial scrolls early in
>>>>>> my SCA participation, I think your project would be very useful. I applaud
>>>>>> you for taking it on. There's no reason we can't have our own litte book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was a lot easier to get to Baronial scroll information when it was
>>>>>> on the Stierbach website. Now you have to dig for it on the Atlantia site.
>>>>>> If someone is a newbie, it would be discouraging.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will check my old scroll information to see if I have alternate
>>>>>> wording for Baronial scrolls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amie Sparrow
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:52:26 -0400
>>>>>> From: miriel.denedham at gmail.com
>>>>>> To: moo at lists.stierbach.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reasons this project seemed like a good idea when I proposed it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. The award badge images only seem to be available through a scribal
>>>>>> version of word of mouth and even the blazonings are buried in the O and A.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. I have exactly one award text verbage for each award, most of
>>>>>> which have notations indicating they were approved by Mika and Ursula.
>>>>>> These used to be available on Enequy's website that held the Baronial OP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. I'm hosting a scriptorium that wants to help with court dockets,
>>>>>> scroll backlogs, and several other projects, but the bulk of the
>>>>>> participants are just starting out or for some other reason are
>>>>>> uncomfortable with entirely improvising award text, much less doing that
>>>>>> for every single scroll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One easy-to-acquire document, containing all that information and
>>>>>> tailored specifically to our barony, in a familiar format and in a central
>>>>>> location seemed like an ideal solution.  I saw a need, so I tried to fill
>>>>>> it.  I apologize that my desire to help has apparently caused some offense
>>>>>> or confusion.  I would still like to see the project through, even if it
>>>>>> will never be well received by the barony at large.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Miriel de Nedham
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Suzanne Olson <
>>>>>> lady_esperanza at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like that there is not set text so that awards can be more
>>>>>> personalize, less cookie cutter. That way everyone's scrolls can be
>>>>>> tailored to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like you said previously, variety keeps court more interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Baroness Esperanza
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > It was my understanding that there was not set award text for an of
>>>>>> the Stierbach awards. I like it this way.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I guess scribes could use the canned text like kingdom level
>>>>>> scrolls but I would prefer that they don't have to. Just like with Kingdom
>>>>>> level awards, the canned texted doesn't have to be used.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Baroness Esperanza
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Jeanne Zabel <jzabel at va.metrocast.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Miriel and I have copies of the baronial award
>>>>>> >> texts.  But there is only one set of wording for each award.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The kingdom handbook has several text variations as well as the
>>>>>> graphics for each award.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Miriel would like to create a similar handbook for Stierbach
>>>>>> scribes to use for baronial awards and is looking for input to create a
>>>>>> variety of texts for each award.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Having variety keeps court more interesting since the herald would
>>>>>> not be reading the same wording over and over.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> In service,
>>>>>> >> Christina de Nedham
>>>>>> >>
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>>>>>> >>>   1. ISO Stierbach award text (Miriel de Nedham)
>>>>>> >>>   2. Re: ISO Stierbach award text (Jonathan Blaine)
>>>>>> >>>   3. Re: ISO Stierbach award text (Brian Bertrand)
>>>>>> >>>   4. Re: ISO Stierbach award text (Made For Willow)
>>>>>> >>>   5. Re: ISO Stierbach award text (Sunniva Kyrre)
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