[Moo] newcomers handbook

Thu Jul 11 10:47:58 PDT 2013

Would love to take a look at it please
On Jul 11, 2013 1:39 PM, "Barbara Miller" <blithaofwolfhou at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have put together and use a newcomer book aimed at the new person in
> stierbach... it is not really published officially because of all of the
> red tape concerning photos. I took most of the pictures, and then there are
> the sticky wickets concerning the people in the pictures. Does there need
> to be waivers for subjects as well? So, I have it on the back burner. If
> you want to take it and make it more useful, please do! Much of my newcomer
> booklet is based on the main SCA one, updated and tweeked to atlantia and
> stierbach.
>
> And yes Rhonwen, I am sure your classes would be very enlightening and
> useful in Sudentorre. We have a number of newer folks! Talk to Marsali
> about scheduling for a tuesday night. Or we can do for a sunday afternoon
> or evening. Most of our new folks start getting intruduced and start doing
> things an sundays at Wolfhou.
>
> -Blitha
> Chatelaine of sudentorre's corner of Stierbach
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
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> * From: * Miriel de Nedham <miriel.denedham at gmail.com>;
> * To: * General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach <
> moo at lists.stierbach.org>;
> * Subject: * Re: [Moo] newcomers handbook
> * Sent: * Wed, Jul 10, 2013 11:18:18 AM
>
>   Any of those classes could be really interesting!
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Rhonwen verch Tuder <
> rhonwen at kandsbennett.net> wrote:
>
>>  Jonathan - This is something that the chatelaines office is working
>> on.  ****
>>
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>>
>> Also, the heralds handbook as a lot of this information in it.
>> Unfortunately it seems to be only the in the hands of Heralds. :)****
>>
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>>
>> Maybe I need to dust off my OP, heraldry, protocol, scribaly stuff
>> classes and start teaching them again.  Would anyone in the Barony be
>> interested in attending these?****
>>
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>>
>> Rhonwen ****
>>
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>>
>> *From:* moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org
>> [mailto:moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Blaine
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 08, 2013 3:32 PM
>> *To:* General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
>> *Subject:* Re: [Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> This brings up something I've stated in multiple kingdoms now.****
>>
>> There really needs to be an updated "newbie" handbook that pertains to
>> the actual kingdom level. Technically I guess you have the known world
>> handbook on an SCA scale. But that's really not a newbie handbook, and
>> kingdoms differ greatly in many instances that a generalised handbook would
>> not work.****
>>
>> As pointed out from previous emails, some people don't know some of this
>> very basic stuff/where to find it. Some of this information may be common
>> knowledge for vets of this kingdom or SCA in general, but to some newbies
>> or people from other kingdoms, this may not be common knowledge.****
>>
>> I've also heard a lot of people ask some basic questions like "what's
>> this order for?" And most commonly "how do you get an award?"****
>>
>> Opinions, criticism, ideas?****
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2013 3:19 PM, "Laurie Clarkston" <garadh56 at gmail.com> wrote:***
>> *
>>
>> Thank you Richard.  This will be very helpful.  When I was looking for
>> this info, I did go the Kingdom website with the link listed of the
>> Baronial website, but it was to the main Kingdom listing.  ****
>>
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>>
>> As of an hour ago, I never knew the Baronial info was also listed on the
>> Kingdom website.****
>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Timothy Mitchell <rwymarc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> I've made a note to add this to the website tonight. If there are other
>> suggestions for useful links please send them to
>> webminister at stierbach.org****
>>
>> Richard ****
>>
>> —
>> Richard Wymarc ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Laurie Clarkston <garadh56 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>>  I know this now, but this info would have been helpful several months
>> ago when I was looking for info on an award.  I could not find any info on
>> the Baronial Website on Baronial Awards.  If a link had been placed on the
>> Baronial Website, then this conversation would not be taking place.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Rhonwen verch Tuder <
>> rhonwen at kandsbennett.net> wrote:****
>>
>> All awards ever given out by the current and past Baronage are found on
>> the kingdom OP site.  You can search by B&B term or award given.  There is
>> a description of what the award is for as well.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> In addition, if you think someone should have an award look at their OP
>> on the kingdom website.  All awards given to that person will be listed
>> there no matter if it was baronial, Atlantian, or another kingdom.  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rhonwen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone****
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:46 PM, "Laurie Clarkston" <garadh56 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>>   When the Baronial OP link went away, so did the list of Baronial
>> Awards for various activities.  The OP has been outdated by several years,
>> but you could at least find a definition of each of the Baronial awards.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> So, if you want to recommend someone for an award, there is no listing to
>> show what awards Stierbach has. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Cairistiona****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Miriel de Nedham <
>> miriel.denedham at gmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> I never said it was on the Stierbach website.  I don't know about how it
>> was set up before I started playing and paying attention to these things,
>> but at one point there was a link on the baronial website to the baronial
>> OP, which was hosted on a personal website.  That website became
>> unavailable or inaccessible or somesuch (I don't know the details) a
>> few years ago and so the webminister removed the link at some point, since
>> there wasn't much use in keeping a broken link.  Since then the example
>> text and the badge images have been unavailable online.  Again, that's as
>> far as I know --- someone else may have started hosting the images, but I
>> haven't come across them.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> For the most part, the Atlantian OP has covered the information that used
>> to be on the Stierbach OP, with the exception of the Stierbach-specific
>> badge images and blazoning and the award text examples, and has mostly done
>> a good job of keeping things up to date.  Given that, and as far as I know,
>> Stierbach hasn't needed to recreate what used to be on that personal
>> website because the most important information is being maintained by the
>> Kingdom.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Miriel****
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Blaine <hourumiyamoto at gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Why was it taken off the baronial website to begin with if we had
>> information on it? ****
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2013 8:09 AM, "Amie Sparrow" <troenwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Miriel,
>>
>> As someone who used to do a fair number of baronial scrolls early in my
>> SCA participation, I think your project would be very useful. I applaud you
>> for taking it on. There's no reason we can't have our own litte book.
>>
>> It was a lot easier to get to Baronial scroll information when it was on
>> the Stierbach website. Now you have to dig for it on the Atlantia site. If
>> someone is a newbie, it would be discouraging.
>>
>> I will check my old scroll information to see if I have alternate wording
>> for Baronial scrolls.
>>
>> Amie Sparrow
>>  ****
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>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:52:26 -0400
>> From: miriel.denedham at gmail.com
>> To: moo at lists.stierbach.org
>> Subject: Re: [Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10****
>>
>> The reasons this project seemed like a good idea when I proposed it:****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> 1. The award badge images only seem to be available through a scribal
>> version of word of mouth and even the blazonings are buried in the O and A.
>> ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> 2. I have exactly one award text verbage for each award, most of which
>> have notations indicating they were approved by Mika and Ursula.  These
>> used to be available on Enequy's website that held the Baronial OP.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> 3. I'm hosting a scriptorium that wants to help with court dockets,
>> scroll backlogs, and several other projects, but the bulk of the
>> participants are just starting out or for some other reason are
>> uncomfortable with entirely improvising award text, much less doing that
>> for every single scroll.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> One easy-to-acquire document, containing all that information and
>> tailored specifically to our barony, in a familiar format and in a central
>> location seemed like an ideal solution.  I saw a need, so I tried to fill
>> it.  I apologize that my desire to help has apparently caused some offense
>> or confusion.  I would still like to see the project through, even if it
>> will never be well received by the barony at large.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Miriel de Nedham****
>>
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> I like that there is not set text so that awards can be more personalize,
>> less cookie cutter. That way everyone's scrolls can be tailored to them.
>>
>> Like you said previously, variety keeps court more interesting.
>>
>> Baroness Esperanza****
>>
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It was my understanding that there was not set award text for an of the
>> Stierbach awards. I like it this way.
>> >
>> > I guess scribes could use the canned text like kingdom level scrolls
>> but I would prefer that they don't have to. Just like with Kingdom level
>> awards, the canned texted doesn't have to be used.
>> >
>> > Baroness Esperanza
>> >
>> > On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Jeanne Zabel <jzabel at va.metrocast.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Miriel and I have copies of the baronial award
>> >> texts.  But there is only one set of wording for each award.
>> >>
>> >> The kingdom handbook has several text variations as well as the
>> graphics for each award.
>> >>
>> >> Miriel would like to create a similar handbook for Stierbach scribes
>> to use for baronial awards and is looking for input to create a variety of
>> texts for each award.
>> >>
>> >> Having variety keeps court more interesting since the herald would not
>> be reading the same wording over and over.
>> >>
>> >> In service,
>> >> Christina de Nedham
>> >>
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