<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt">Be careful what you ask for, as some of us are more bluntly outspoken than others....<br><br>One might wish for some common sense in applying the rulings. In particular, if something passes the "looks OK at 10 feet" test, it seems to me it should be common sense to leave it alone. Maybe add a word like "overtly" or "obviously" to the laws where common sense would expect it. (The duct tape example *might* be called a safety issue - duct tape doesn't always hold under extreme stress, e.g. combat.)<br><br>I would absolutely advise against banning sunglasses - too many of us wear prescription lenses and would not be able to attend outdoor events on even partly sunny days without them. Myself included. <br><br>I reserve judgment on tennis shoes, as there are gentles for whom they
are a genuine medical necessity - anyone who has had to deal with
plantar fasciitis, for example, knows that lace-up shoes provide more
support and therefore more comfort than non-laced styles.( The same goes,
perhaps more so, for running shoes, support shoes, and so on.) Not all
of us - I would think not all that many of us, especially with the
mundane economy in a tailspin - can afford custom orthotics built into
custom-made period-looking shoes. I would consider it "reasonable" to require that tennis shoes and such be "unobtrusive", e.g. navy/dark denim, brown or black (not white, plaid or day-glo colors, and no flashing lights).<br>
<br>Some other kingdoms *do* require covering overtly mundane items such as coolers and soda bottles. But if this is taken to the extreme of concealing *all* mundanities, it would be much the same as, for instance, outlawing ALL photography at events. There just is no concealing a camera, not and still be able to use it with any ease. <br><br>Applying the letter of the law - or applying new laws - too strictly
would also mean that we would have to choose between authenticity
(candle-lit tables) and safety regulations (no open flames - an all too common rule
nowadays). And by the strict letter of such a law, "fake" battery-powered candles would not be an acceptable substitute. We would either find our
choice of sites severely restricted, or would have to put up with
whatever mundane lighting the site provided - which would violate the
"spirit of the law" more blatantly than fake candles would.<br>
<br>The question that raises itself is, what kind of organization do we want to be? Do we want to be as restrictive and exclusionary as the historical re-enactment groups, some of which do not even allow prescription glasses in any kind of frame that is not absolutely authentic to their particular period? Do we really, really want to discourage or drive off people who might be interested but who can't meet restrictive standards for financial or medical reasons? *Is* there common ground between "authenticity" and common sense?<br><br><div>I sincerely hope there still is.<br><br>Maven the Grouch<br>Medhbhin Liadain (B Helms)<br><br><br><br><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="padding-left: 5px; margin: 5px 0px 5px 5px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><hr size="1"><b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> "lady_esperanza@cox.net" <lady_esperanza@cox.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "abhainniarthair@yahoogroups.com" <abhainniarthair@yahoogroups.com>; "moo@lists.stierbach.org" <moo@lists.stierbach.org>; "Watchtower@sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org" <Watchtower@sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, December 6, 2010 9:24:14 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [abhainniarthair] Topic for comment from Curia<br></font><br>
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<p>Their Highnesses (and their Majesties), asked for comment regarding changes to the current rules regarding the Appearance Law for the fighters of Atlantia.<br>
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The current law is in the Atlantian Great Book of Law, 10. Rights of Subjects, 10.1 - Concerning Non-Period Items.<br>
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10.1.4 All plastic and/or modern sports equipment used by all participants on the field of combat must be covered in a manner to disguise the material in an attempt to display historical pre-17th Century accoutrements to the average passerby.<br>
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10.1.4.1 Plastic and other modern materials specifically required to promote safety or those that are medically required are exempt from this ruling. However, every attempt must be made, in good faith, to disguise those items.<br>
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10.1.4.2 Hand protection and shield edges may be made of plastic materials. However, it is the owner’s responsibility to attempt to disguise the appearance of those items to bring them into compliance with the spirit of this law.<br>
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10.1.4.3 Participants who are residents of another kingdom are to be considered our guests and are exempt from this ruling provided they meet Society minimum standards.<br>
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10.1.4.4 Newly transplanted citizens to Atlantia are to be granted a four month period of time to come into compliance with these laws.<br>
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Their stated intent was not to necessarily tighten the rules but to change the wording of the Law so that it would be more clearly defined. Their quandary was more how can the Law wording be changed to include what is wanted without taking a step back, something that their Highnesses would not like to see.<br>
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Some example of issues that were sited during Curia include:<br>
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1. Fighter X has made armor of plastic lamellar. This armor looks great, can't tell it's plastic from 10 feet away or even a foot away but by the letter of the law, all plastic needs to be covered.<br>
2. Plastic and other modern materials specifically required to promote safety or those that are medically required are exempt from this ruling. Well, isn't all armor required to promote safety and therefore by the letter of the law exempt from this ruling?<br>
3. Fighter X notices popped rivet on armor before fighting starts in the morning, armor temporarily fixed with duct tape, armor is safe to fight by marshal but by the letter of the law fighter should not be fighting if it does not meet the appearance rule.<br>
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They also asked for comments regarding expanding the Appearance Law to the populace of Atlantia. They spoke of not wearing tennis shoes, sunglasses, covering blatantly modern items,etc.<br>
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Feel free to discuss this on the e lists. If you would like your make your comments known to their Majesties and Highnesses please email: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:trh%40atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:trh%40atlantia.sca.org">trh@atlantia.sca.org</a> and <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:trm%40atlantia.sca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:trm%40atlantia.sca.org">trm@atlantia.sca.org</a>. It was asked that comments be made before 12th Night, which is Jan 8th.<br>
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Lady Esperanza Susanna Flecha<br>
Seneschal, Barony of Stierbach<br>
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