[Moo] Business Stuff

Wed Jun 6 14:28:26 PDT 2007

The ADA requirements are for 'official' business meetings because you are
representing the SCA, Inc.  If you have other questions I will be happy to
answer them.  I do ADA assessments for Non-profits and for businesses as
well as work on and for the Commonwealth and the Fed. Gov. on ADA
requirements  and complaints.  I have offered to do this for the SCA and for
the Kingdom and local groups for free, but have never been given an answer.
If you go to an assessor for a site it is often $1200 for a consult.  Yes,
each site has to be ADA, including Coopers (I have been helping them get
compliant for the past 5 years).  Some people will tell you: 

1) it is grandfathered -- Nothing is grandfathered in the ADA (Jamestown and
Williamsburg had to become compliant).  

2) it is the job and responsibility of the place we rent to be compliant we
don't have to worry about it -- if we rent a place knowing it is not
compliant we are guilty in the eyes of the ADA for not providing a safe
site.  

3) Would we as a group meet or rent a place that is not ADA -- you BET'CHA.
We have done it since the founding of the kingdom/group.  These rules have
been in place since the 70's.  

4) Does it make a difference to the fun the citizens of the kingdom have at
an event? -- If I can't walk it or move my scooter safely through the site I
can't come and that ruins my fun and others like me that are citizens of the
kingdom.  If we are using a campground I have to email or call the autocrat
and ask if the site is ADA safe and compliant and most of the time I don't
get an answer because they don't know what it means.

5) I consider it a win for the ADA that I have finally gotten most people
aware that you cannot, by law, block a parking spot, cover the signs, or
otherwise not try to reserve them for royalty or others coming to an event.
Now to teach them that handicap stalls are needed by the disabled to go to
the bathroom in, not just for changing areas.

Sorry for the rant but I am more than happy to help with this.  Someone just
needs to ask.

Annejke
Disability Services Board for the Commonwealth of VA

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-----Original Message-----
From: moo-bounces at stierbach.org [mailto:moo-bounces at stierbach.org] On Behalf
Of Ryan Snead
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:08 AM
To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
Subject: Re: [Moo] Business Stuff

Lewin,

Thank-you for pointing out the ADA compliance question. I am in the process
of checking on this through our kingdom's seneschallate. We have to comply
with ADA for all of our activities, not just business meetings. At this
time, I do not think this means we have to stop holding activities at
private residences unless they have been modified to meet certain
architectural standards. If I learn otherwise, it will be an education for
everyone. 

As to blatant discrimination based on a disability, I am confident that
would not be tolerated in our local group.

Iustinos

On 6/5/07, Lewindepartone at aol.com <Lewindepartone at aol.com> wrote: 

	In another group we have run into this problem.  by society law ( if
im correct ) once you open your home to "official business meetings" your
home MUST comply with all federal disabilities laws.  might want to check
this so that you dont interfere with these laws and open a can of worms that
you really dont need.  its about destroyed a group so far since some folks
feel that its ok to hinder the handicapped from attending meetings and then
when they speak up for themselves the "some folks" throw a fit and I even
watched a few push chairs in front of the handicapped person and make snide
remarks about them.  

	Lewin

	In a message dated 6/5/2007 8:52:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
KristiWhyKelly at aol.com writes:

		While I'm guessing that it is my house that is being
discussed right now, I will put my two cents in this discussion.

		Libraries are bad for our family, kids and meetings don't go
well together.  I would love the meetings to be at a private home,
preferably one where there might be a separate room for the kids to go and
play and watch tv (yes, we let our kids watch it). 

		Any home would do, and we could even make it on week nights
if that were the case.  Keeping kids quiet in a common room of adults
talking is near impossible, and a big pain the tush for the parents.  Which
is why we stay home unless we have to come.  

		And yes, we would of course LOVE people to come and hangout
at our house and even stay for a meeting!  

		I'd like to see people come over just so that we can all get
to know everyone outside of an event.  There are a lot of folks in the
Barony that I don't know and would love to have a place where I can meet
them, where we don't all have a very urgent errand or duty that prevents us
from just talking. 

		Regards,
		Grace

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