[Moo] Axe

[Smith CTR Jeffrey C]

For a start, see http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=hatchet&searchmode=none

"hatchet  
1166, from O.Fr. hachette, dim. of hache "axe," possibly from Frank. *happja (cf. O.H.G. happa "sickle, scythe"), from P.Gmc. *khæbijo, from PIE base *(s)qep- "to cut" (cf. Gk. kopis "knife," Lith. kaplys "hatchet"). Phrase bury the hatchet (1794) is from Native American peacemaking custom. Hatchet-man was originally California slang for "hired Chinese assassin" (1880), later extended figuratively to journalists who attacked the reputation of a public figure (1944). "

Janos 

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From: moo-bounces at stierbach.org [mailto:moo-bounces at stierbach.org] On Behalf Of Janie Darby
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Ok, I looked up "hatchet" in a couple of online dictionaries. Definitely dates to Period origin, though not sure when/where the current spelling took hold. 
 
I like either that or "adze". However, an adze doesn't look like an axe. It's blade is set at a right angle to the haft. Think hoe with a sharp blade and a shorter handle. It is used for shaping wood - not a thrown weapon. 
 
>From Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
 
Main Entry: 
hatch·et
Pronunciation: 
\ˈha-chət\
Function: 
noun
Etymology: 
Middle English hachet, from Anglo-French hachette, diminutive of hache battle-ax
Date: 
14th century
1 : a short-handled ax often with a hammerhead to be used with one hand And here's another:
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition.  2000.	
 	
hatchet	
 	
SYLLABICATION:	 hatch·et	
PRONUNCIATION <http://www.bartleby.com/61/12.html> :	   <http://www.bartleby.com/61/wavs/17/H0081700.wav>  h <http://www.bartleby.com/images/pronunciation/abreve.gif> ch <http://www.bartleby.com/images/pronunciation/prime.gif>  <http://www.bartleby.com/images/pronunciation/ibreve.gif> t	 
NOUN:	 1. A small, short-handled ax for use in one hand. 2. A tomahawk. 
ETYMOLOGY:	 Middle English hachet, from Old French hachete, diminutive of hache, ax, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German happa, sickle. 	


 
On 4/3/08, enequy at comcast.net <enequy at comcast.net> wrote: 

	If the rules that Evan is applying here actaully work out (and Evan is one I really trust that is up on most of the rules)  - - - then I myself really would go for the idea of the "Award of the Silver Hatchet". And it also matches the device. You got my vote on it.
	 
	Enequy
	 

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		From: Dave Montuori <damont at wolfstar.com> 
		
		> > I would love to quote you on that. The Golden Dolphin Herald said I 
		> > couldn't use different words for the same thing and have it pass when we 
		> > sat down and talked at Fall University. She knew that we were trying to 
		> > pass award names when she made that statement. I might have 
		> > misinterpreted her statement but I was sure she said that it had to be 
		> > something completely different. Can you give me a link to that ruling? 
		> > Is it on the SCA precedents page? 
		> 
		> You have my permission to quote me on that. It's straight from the Rules 
		> for Submissions, Section V.2 -- I am unaware of any precedent that 
		> overrules the basic rule in this case. 
		> 
		> "a. Difference of D escrip tive Elements - A descriptive element is a word 
		> other than a designator, an article, a preposition, or the name of a 
		> branch of the Society." 
		> 
		> Here's the first important part: 
		> 
		> "Two descriptive elements are considered significantly different if they 
		> differ significantly in both sound and appearance. Descriptive elements 
		> that are not significantly different are said to be equivalent." 
		> 
		> And in the section immediately below that part, the middle paragraph is 
		> the most important: 
		> 
		> "b. Conflict of Names with the Same Number of Elements - Two non-personal 
		> names with the same number of descriptive elements conflict unless at 
		> least one of the following conditions is met. 
		> 
		> " i. Change of Elements - Two such names do not conflict if each of 
		> them contains a descriptive element significantly different from every 
		> descriptive el ement in the other. 
		> 
		> " House Saint Mary , Saint Mary Herald , and the College of Sainte 
		> Marie all conflict with one another because their descriptive elements are 
		> equivalent; House , Herald , and College of , being designators, are not 
		> descriptive elements. The House of the Red Dolphin does not conflict with 
		> the House of the Blue Dolphin or the House of the Red Lion . The Order of 
		> the White Scarf of Ansteorra conflicts with the Order of the White Scarf 
		> of Atenveldt because Ansteorra and Atenveldt are not descriptive elements 
		> as defined above in clause 2. a." 
		> 
		> Evan 
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