[Moo] Topic for comment from Curia

Leif Johnston leif at resourcecompany.com
Sun Jan 16 21:44:36 PST 2011


I was thinking about this today. It strikes me that the pursuit of a pure
period context should be tied to the event and the advertising process. To
be fair, having folks representing anything from around the world from
600-1600 is not really period. That said, should an organization seek to put
on an event like 12th night that was focused on a viking period context,
they should be able to enforce the defintion of period for that context - in
my opinion with a large enough loaner box.
 
To be fair, things like falming torches, most metal serving trays and the
facilities we celebrate in are not realistic either.
 
I would think that accomodations for things like glasses are reasonable. It
would seem that someone seeking to "play" would find ways to mitigate a
handicap with an elegant carved walking stick or the like and it is likely
unreasonable that all accomodations for handicap be considered, but...
 
Clearly we make exceptions for safety or we would fight like regia anglorum.
 
IN sum, period isn't really historically valid, but still the game we play.
Historicity would suggest that japanese doesn't fit with european in the
middle ages.
 
Not sure what to do with that, but... my 2 cents
 
 
-W

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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:06 AM
To: moo at lists.stierbach.org; watchtower at sudentorre.atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Moo] Topic for comment from Curia


Ok, some points.....
 
First, before commenting, please take a look at
http://law.atlantia.sca.org/Law.html.  The complete list of laws and
policies can be found here: http://law.atlantia.sca.org/Law.pdf.  All of the
laws and policies are up for review.  Read through the documents, and make
suggestions.
 
 
Whatever the laws are, were, or will become, only a few people have the
responsibility to enforce Kingdom Law.  During marshaled activities, the
Marshals have this task.  Typically, this is done during inspections.  The
Marshal in charge of  a particular activity (Tourney, Shoot, etc...) has the
authority to refuse participation to someone not in compliance.  In any
other case, the Autocrat and Seneschal are the ones with enforcement
authority.  The rest of the populace SHOULD (but are not required to) HELP
those who they feel are in violation.  Lead by example, show restraint, be
courteous, be helpful.  If you see something that you feel is egregious,
find the Autocrat.

 
 
So here is the section on Non-period Items:
10.1   Concerning Non-Period Items 

	10.1.1   Canned beverages and other obvious modern items are
forbidden at all Kingdom-level events. The one exception is that they are
permitted within a pavilion with the owner's express permission. In this
case, those who bring the cans or other items are responsible for their
timely and discreet disposal. 
	10.1.2   Smoking is forbidden in the central area of a Society
event. The central area of an event is defined as any area where people must
be present in order to participate in the event, such as the hall where a
feast is taking place, or the lists and the area surrounding them during a
tournament. The autocrat shall define the boundaries of the central area and
the autocrat shall, if possible, provide some other area as convenient as
may be found where smoking is permitted and made safe and practicable.
Smoking is permitted in the interior of pavilion/home only with the express
permission of the owner of the pavilion/home. 
	10.1.3   The use of flash bulbs is forbidden in the central area of
a Society event, being defined as any area where people must be present in
order to participate in the event, such as the hall where a feast or court
is taking place. The autocrat shall be responsible for defining the
boundaries of the central area and should be consulted before any
photography using flash bulbs takes place. Photography with flash bulbs is
permitted in the interior of a pavilion only with the owner's permission,
but only if this use of a flash bulb will not disturb anyone in the main
area of an event. It is hoped that anyone taking photographs at any time
will first obtain permission from those being photographed as a matter of
courtesy.
	10.1.4   All plastic and/or modern sports equipment used by all
participants on the field of combat must be covered in a manner to disguise
the material in an attempt to display historical pre-17th Century
accoutrements to the average passerby. 

	10.1.4.1   Plastic and other modern materials specifically required
to promote safety or those that are medically required are exempt from this
ruling. However, every attempt must be made, in good faith, to disguise
those items.
	10.1.4.2   Hand protection and shield edges may be made of plastic
materials. However, it is the owner's responsibility to attempt to disguise
the appearance of those items to bring them into compliance with the spirit
of this law.
	10.1.4.3   Participants who are residents of another kingdom are to
be considered our guests and are exempt from this ruling provided they meet
Society minimum standards.
	10.1.4.4   Newly transplanted citizens to Atlantia are to be granted
a four month period of time to come into compliance with these laws.

 
 
A strict interpretation of the rules shows some serious flaws.  Note that
transplants from other Kingdoms have a four month grace period for
compliance on the list (10.1.4.4), but newcomers have none for simply being
at the event.  Professional cameras are "obvious modern items", and are
forbidden (10.1.1), but photography is allowed (10.1.3).
 
FYI - these laws have been on the books for a while.  The current push is to
FIX the laws.  
 
I understand that the discussion will bring a host of complaints, but
understand that by the letter of the law, if you need to have an orthopedic
shoe, you can wear it during Archery (10.1.4.1), but not at court (10.1.1).
The law needs to be changed.  This is your chance to have a hand in the
changes.  For example, I think that there should be a line that states "Any
items that are required for the safe and proper execution of an Officer's
job responsibilities are exempt".
 
I intend to go through the law and policy documents, and then make
suggestions to the Crown.  I invite you to do the same.
 
 
In service,
 
Siegfried McClure
 
Seneschal - Sudentorre
571-572-2489
 
 

 
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