[Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10

Miriel de Nedham miriel.denedham at gmail.com
Mon Jul 8 09:36:05 PDT 2013


I never said it was on the Stierbach website.  I don't know about how it
was set up before I started playing and paying attention to these things,
but at one point there was a link on the baronial website to the baronial
OP, which was hosted on a personal website.  That website became
unavailable or inaccessible or somesuch (I don't know the details) a
few years ago and so the webminister removed the link at some point, since
there wasn't much use in keeping a broken link.  Since then the example
text and the badge images have been unavailable online.  Again, that's as
far as I know --- someone else may have started hosting the images, but I
haven't come across them.

For the most part, the Atlantian OP has covered the information that used
to be on the Stierbach OP, with the exception of the Stierbach-specific
badge images and blazoning and the award text examples, and has mostly done
a good job of keeping things up to date.  Given that, and as far as I know,
Stierbach hasn't needed to recreate what used to be on that personal
website because the most important information is being maintained by the
Kingdom.

Miriel

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Blaine <hourumiyamoto at gmail.com>wrote:

> Why was it taken off the baronial website to begin with if we had
> information on it?
>  On Jul 8, 2013 8:09 AM, "Amie Sparrow" <troenwolf at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Miriel,
>>
>> As someone who used to do a fair number of baronial scrolls early in my
>> SCA participation, I think your project would be very useful. I applaud you
>> for taking it on. There's no reason we can't have our own litte book.
>>
>> It was a lot easier to get to Baronial scroll information when it was on
>> the Stierbach website. Now you have to dig for it on the Atlantia site. If
>> someone is a newbie, it would be discouraging.
>>
>> I will check my old scroll information to see if I have alternate wording
>> for Baronial scrolls.
>>
>> Amie Sparrow
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:52:26 -0400
>> From: miriel.denedham at gmail.com
>> To: moo at lists.stierbach.org
>> Subject: Re: [Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10
>>
>> The reasons this project seemed like a good idea when I proposed it:
>>
>> 1. The award badge images only seem to be available through a scribal
>> version of word of mouth and even the blazonings are buried in the O and A.
>>
>> 2. I have exactly one award text verbage for each award, most of which
>> have notations indicating they were approved by Mika and Ursula.  These
>> used to be available on Enequy's website that held the Baronial OP.
>>
>> 3. I'm hosting a scriptorium that wants to help with court dockets,
>> scroll backlogs, and several other projects, but the bulk of the
>> participants are just starting out or for some other reason are
>> uncomfortable with entirely improvising award text, much less doing that
>> for every single scroll.
>>
>> One easy-to-acquire document, containing all that information and
>> tailored specifically to our barony, in a familiar format and in a central
>> location seemed like an ideal solution.  I saw a need, so I tried to fill
>> it.  I apologize that my desire to help has apparently caused some offense
>> or confusion.  I would still like to see the project through, even if it
>> will never be well received by the barony at large.
>>
>> Miriel de Nedham
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net>wrote:
>>
>> I like that there is not set text so that awards can be more personalize,
>> less cookie cutter. That way everyone's scrolls can be tailored to them.
>>
>> Like you said previously, variety keeps court more interesting.
>>
>> Baroness Esperanza
>>
>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > It was my understanding that there was not set award text for an of the
>> Stierbach awards. I like it this way.
>> >
>> > I guess scribes could use the canned text like kingdom level scrolls
>> but I would prefer that they don't have to. Just like with Kingdom level
>> awards, the canned texted doesn't have to be used.
>> >
>> > Baroness Esperanza
>> >
>> > On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Jeanne Zabel <jzabel at va.metrocast.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Miriel and I have copies of the baronial award
>> >> texts.  But there is only one set of wording for each award.
>> >>
>> >> The kingdom handbook has several text variations as well as the
>> graphics for each award.
>> >>
>> >> Miriel would like to create a similar handbook for Stierbach scribes
>> to use for baronial awards and is looking for input to create a variety of
>> texts for each award.
>> >>
>> >> Having variety keeps court more interesting since the herald would not
>> be reading the same wording over and over.
>> >>
>> >> In service,
>> >> Christina de Nedham
>> >>
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