[Moo] Gift Basket for Their Royal Majesties

Denise V. McMahon denise at shado.info
Wed Nov 20 21:47:44 PST 2013 

Congratulations Logan!  You gave me my first chuckle of the day! 

Hey do you still have that Tabard I made for you to thank you for being one of the only knights that ever came to Stierbach when I was Baroness?  :) Stierbach has had a long friendship with you! 

hugs!

Rowan

> On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:15 PM, "Logan" <Logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:
> 
> great questions.  every answer from every monarch will vary.
>  
> is there a tradition?  sure there always is.  sometimes they are made up on the spot.  sometimes they actually have been around for years.  are they all right?  eh.  are they all made up? eh.  it is always safe to give a gift with a note saying “do what you will with this thing”.  that gives everyone a hall pass and that is a good thing.
>  
> would i personally keep a large stuffed red and white steer?  sure,  if addison liked it or if it added to my love of this barony more than i already feel.  the best thing is to look at the gift and decide how you feel about it.  is it something you would be hurt to see them give away?  if so, why?  if yes can you find a way they can do so without it being a negative?  for example someone once gave me some rosary beads.  they were a beautiful gift and were given with love and adoration.  as an atheist i found the material gift to be, well, silly as i do not believe in the supernatural.  but the lady that gave them to me did and i wasnt inclined to debate her faith with fact.  ive kept them for years and they are important to me.  i will certainly gift them to someone for the “right” reason.  until then i will keep them and recall the moment with fondness.
>  
> so my answer would be to always give gifts as gifts.  and so long as you are inclined to mention that the recipient is encouraged to keep them as much as gift them you should be fine.  if it is something you expect the recipient to accept and agree to sleep with under their pillow i would recommend some professional psychiatric help.  thats just crazy talk!!
>  
> ;^P
>  
> regards
> logan
>  
> "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell." 
> Harry S Truman
> "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared"
> Niccolo Machiavelli
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> From: moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org [mailto:moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org] On Behalf Of H B
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:29 PM
> To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
> Subject: Re: [Moo] Gift Basket for Their Royal Majesties
>  
> Logan,
>  
> Thank you for the first-hand knowledge! 
>  
> So the next time you're King (or if your lovely Wife makes you Consort????) I can make you a rather hideously large stuffed red and white Steer, and give it to you personally to force you to keep it forever???  This sounds like another episode of 'Fun with the Royals'!
>  
> But seriously, in your opinion, if I were to have a donation, and I didn't already KNOW that they would want it as a personal gift, would it be best to just give it as largesse?  Or would it be better to offer it as a personal gift if they like it, and feel free to use as largesse if they dont have a need?  Are there rules or traditions about this?  Before I pour my heart into something and then get accidently offended that someone didn't use it as I hoped, is it best to include a note saying, "Gift from Heather the Awesome, you're welcome to keep personally if you have need, or please share with the populace as you see fit." or "Gift from Heather the Magnificent, to you, personally, please never give this away and make sure to sleep with it under your pillow!"
>  
> It seems like everything has a nuance, which makes sense since we're recreating a complicated society, and the last thing I want to do is create unintended confusion.
>  
> Thank you,
> Heather
> 
> 
>  
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Logan <Logan at ebonwoulfe.com> wrote:
> if someone is giving a personal gift they need to be sure to say that.
> otherwise it ends up as regalia and should be passed on as a gift or placed
> in the care of the kingdom when they step down.  there is nothing at all
> wrong with personal gifts but it is important to make that clear.  i once
> gave someone a gift in court and found out years later that the lady who
> made it gifted it me as a personal gift.  she didnt say that at the time she
> did so and was hurt that i gave it away (and i really hated having to give
> it away too!).
> 
> regards
> logan
> 
> "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was
> hell."
> Harry S Truman
> "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his
> vengeance need not be feared"
> Niccolo Machiavelli
> For your SCA combat needs please visit:
> www.ebonwoulfe.com/armory.htm
> 
> www.ebonwoulfe.com
> 
> For worldwide listings of fighter practices please visit:
> www.fighterpractice.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org
> [mailto:moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org] On Behalf Of lady_esperanza at cox.net
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:45 PM
> To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
> Subject: Re: [Moo] Gift Basket for Their Royal Majesties
> 
> It is indeed a mixture of both. I have seen both types of items in gift
> baskets.
> 
> Baroness Esperanza
> 
> ---- H B <hb998899 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Esperanza, and all Moobies,
> >
> > Newbie question, do gift baskets like this go to the Royals for their
> > personal use, or is this a gathering of largesse to give away?  Or a
> > mix of both?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Heather
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:25 PM, <lady_esperanza at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I am gathering items for a gift basket for Their Royal Majesties to
> > > be given to them at Holiday Faire. If you have items that you would
> > > like included please bring these items to the event. If you could
> > > email me off list to let me know what is coming I would appreciate
> > > it. Also, when giving me your items please put a card or tag with
> > > them so I know which items came from which people.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Baroness Esperanza
> > >
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