[Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 21

Crystal Thurber palfi.jozsa at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 19:21:30 PDT 2013 

Dear Mistress Rhonwen,

I would be interested in the aforementioned classes.

Jozsa


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:22 PM, <moo-request at lists.stierbach.org> wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 21:22:19 +0000
> From: Rhonwen verch Tuder <rhonwen at kandsbennett.net>
> To: 'General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach'
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> Subject: Re: [Moo] newcomers handbook
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> Jonathan - This is something that the chatelaines office is working on.
>
> Also, the heralds handbook as a lot of this information in it.
>  Unfortunately it seems to be only the in the hands of Heralds. :)
>
> Maybe I need to dust off my OP, heraldry, protocol, scribaly stuff classes
> and start teaching them again.  Would anyone in the Barony be interested in
> attending these?
>
> Rhonwen
>
> From: moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org<mailto:
> moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org> [mailto:moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org
> ]<mailto:[mailto:moo-bounces at lists.stierbach.org]> On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Blaine
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:32 PM
> To: General Mailing List for the Barony of Stierbach
> Subject: Re: [Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10
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>
> This brings up something I've stated in multiple kingdoms now.
>
> There really needs to be an updated "newbie" handbook that pertains to the
> actual kingdom level. Technically I guess you have the known world handbook
> on an SCA scale. But that's really not a newbie handbook, and kingdoms
> differ greatly in many instances that a generalised handbook would not work.
>
> As pointed out from previous emails, some people don't know some of this
> very basic stuff/where to find it. Some of this information may be common
> knowledge for vets of this kingdom or SCA in general, but to some newbies
> or people from other kingdoms, this may not be common knowledge.
>
> I've also heard a lot of people ask some basic questions like "what's this
> order for?" And most commonly "how do you get an award?"
>
> Opinions, criticism, ideas?
> On Jul 8, 2013 3:19 PM, "Laurie Clarkston" <garadh56 at gmail.com<mailto:
> garadh56 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thank you Richard.  This will be very helpful.  When I was looking for
> this info, I did go the Kingdom website with the link listed of the
> Baronial website, but it was to the main Kingdom listing.
>
> As of an hour ago, I never knew the Baronial info was also listed on the
> Kingdom website.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Timothy Mitchell <rwymarc at gmail.com
> <mailto:rwymarc at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I've made a note to add this to the website tonight. If there are other
> suggestions for useful links please send them to webminister at stierbach.org
> <mailto:webminister at stierbach.org>
> Richard
> -
> Richard Wymarc
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Laurie Clarkston <garadh56 at gmail.com
> <mailto:garadh56 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I know this now, but this info would have been helpful several months ago
> when I was looking for info on an award.  I could not find any info on the
> Baronial Website on Baronial Awards.  If a link had been placed on the
> Baronial Website, then this conversation would not be taking place.
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Rhonwen verch Tuder <
> rhonwen at kandsbennett.net<mailto:rhonwen at kandsbennett.net>> wrote:
> All awards ever given out by the current and past Baronage are found on
> the kingdom OP site.  You can search by B&B term or award given.  There is
> a description of what the award is for as well.
>
> In addition, if you think someone should have an award look at their OP on
> the kingdom website.  All awards given to that person will be listed there
> no matter if it was baronial, Atlantian, or another kingdom.
>
> Rhonwen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:46 PM, "Laurie Clarkston" <garadh56 at gmail.com<mailto:
> garadh56 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> When the Baronial OP link went away, so did the list of Baronial Awards
> for various activities.  The OP has been outdated by several years, but you
> could at least find a definition of each of the Baronial awards.
>
> So, if you want to recommend someone for an award, there is no listing to
> show what awards Stierbach has.
>
> Cairistiona
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Miriel de Nedham <
> miriel.denedham at gmail.com<mailto:miriel.denedham at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I never said it was on the Stierbach website.  I don't know about how it
> was set up before I started playing and paying attention to these things,
> but at one point there was a link on the baronial website to the baronial
> OP, which was hosted on a personal website.  That website became
> unavailable or inaccessible or somesuch (I don't know the details) a few
> years ago and so the webminister removed the link at some point, since
> there wasn't much use in keeping a broken link.  Since then the example
> text and the badge images have been unavailable online.  Again, that's as
> far as I know --- someone else may have started hosting the images, but I
> haven't come across them.
>
> For the most part, the Atlantian OP has covered the information that used
> to be on the Stierbach OP, with the exception of the Stierbach-specific
> badge images and blazoning and the award text examples, and has mostly done
> a good job of keeping things up to date.  Given that, and as far as I know,
> Stierbach hasn't needed to recreate what used to be on that personal
> website because the most important information is being maintained by the
> Kingdom.
>
> Miriel
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Blaine <hourumiyamoto at gmail.com
> <mailto:hourumiyamoto at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Why was it taken off the baronial website to begin with if we had
> information on it?
> On Jul 8, 2013 8:09 AM, "Amie Sparrow" <troenwolf at hotmail.com<mailto:
> troenwolf at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> Miriel,
>
> As someone who used to do a fair number of baronial scrolls early in my
> SCA participation, I think your project would be very useful. I applaud you
> for taking it on. There's no reason we can't have our own litte book.
>
> It was a lot easier to get to Baronial scroll information when it was on
> the Stierbach website. Now you have to dig for it on the Atlantia site. If
> someone is a newbie, it would be discouraging.
>
> I will check my old scroll information to see if I have alternate wording
> for Baronial scrolls.
>
> Amie Sparrow
>
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> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:52:26 -0400
> From: miriel.denedham at gmail.com<mailto:miriel.denedham at gmail.com>
> To: moo at lists.stierbach.org<mailto:moo at lists.stierbach.org>
> Subject: Re: [Moo] Moo Digest, Vol 115, Issue 10
> The reasons this project seemed like a good idea when I proposed it:
>
> 1. The award badge images only seem to be available through a scribal
> version of word of mouth and even the blazonings are buried in the O and A.
>
> 2. I have exactly one award text verbage for each award, most of which
> have notations indicating they were approved by Mika and Ursula.  These
> used to be available on Enequy's website that held the Baronial OP.
>
> 3. I'm hosting a scriptorium that wants to help with court dockets, scroll
> backlogs, and several other projects, but the bulk of the participants are
> just starting out or for some other reason are uncomfortable with entirely
> improvising award text, much less doing that for every single scroll.
>
> One easy-to-acquire document, containing all that information and tailored
> specifically to our barony, in a familiar format and in a central location
> seemed like an ideal solution.  I saw a need, so I tried to fill it.  I
> apologize that my desire to help has apparently caused some offense or
> confusion.  I would still like to see the project through, even if it will
> never be well received by the barony at large.
>
> Miriel de Nedham
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net
> <mailto:lady_esperanza at cox.net>> wrote:
> I like that there is not set text so that awards can be more personalize,
> less cookie cutter. That way everyone's scrolls can be tailored to them.
>
> Like you said previously, variety keeps court more interesting.
>
> Baroness Esperanza
>
> On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Suzanne Olson <lady_esperanza at cox.net<mailto:
> lady_esperanza at cox.net>> wrote:
>
> > It was my understanding that there was not set award text for an of the
> Stierbach awards. I like it this way.
> >
> > I guess scribes could use the canned text like kingdom level scrolls but
> I would prefer that they don't have to. Just like with Kingdom level
> awards, the canned texted doesn't have to be used.
> >
> > Baroness Esperanza
> >
> > On Jul 7, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Jeanne Zabel <jzabel at va.metrocast.net
> <mailto:jzabel at va.metrocast.net>> wrote:
> >
> >> Miriel and I have copies of the baronial award
> >> texts.  But there is only one set of wording for each award.
> >>
> >> The kingdom handbook has several text variations as well as the
> graphics for each award.
> >>
> >> Miriel would like to create a similar handbook for Stierbach scribes to
> use for baronial awards and is looking for input to create a variety of
> texts for each award.
> >>
> >> Having variety keeps court more interesting since the herald would not
> be reading the same wording over and over.
> >>
> >> In service,
> >> Christina de Nedham
> >>
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